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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 06:12:00 -
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I went to a lowsec area this afternoon and ran some L4 missions for a few hours just to see what it was like (horrible in fact) and was immediately hunted by pirates.
In addition to multiple groups of pirates not killing me I was also able to complete all of my missions without losing any standing or bonuses. The pirates trying to kill me were using faction probes so I have to assume that they were giving it their best effort to try and kill my BS, but fortunately I can operate simple tools like the local channel and my onboard scanner and was able to easily avoid being probed out and killed.
Frankly I think that not being a mouth breathing neckbeard carebear and having some semblance of intellect and common sense, on top of not being so lazy and greedy that I insist on ignoring all the danger signs of being actively hunted by pirates is completely overpowered.
As a suggestion on how to remedy this situation I propose that all level 4 missions spawn a beacon that is able to be warped to by anyone in the system and shows up on everyone's overview if they have the 'carebear ISK farming beacon' box checked in their overview settings. This will make it a little harder for people like myself with an IQ greater than that of a doorstop to get away from all of those hard working penniless pirates out there.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue So you proved correct the whines, that missioning in lowsec is not as profitable as missioning in highsec, because you are constantly being interrupted by pirates and have an increased chance of losing your ship.
No, I was making ISK quite efficiently. I wasn't interrupted. I was simply able to avoid being interrupted by said pirates.
So no, the whines are incorrect.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue So you proved correct the whines, that missioning in lowsec is not as profitable as missioning in highsec, because you are constantly being interrupted by pirates and have an increased chance of losing your ship.
No, I was making ISK quite efficiently. I wasn't interrupted. I was simply able to avoid being interrupted by said pirates.
So no, the whines are incorrect.
I can do this too. I can make "efficiently", the DS was making is that you can be MORE efficient in highsec. It's true too.
I'm not agreeing mission rewards are unbalanced, but lowsec missions aren't in par.
I agree with you that lowsec rewards aren't up to snuff. I don't think an increase of 10-20x the current rewards is unreasonable.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego Edited by: The Djego on 14/07/2009 07:54:47 Meh, boost the exploration conted and faction spawns in the betls in Low Sec instead(and finaly give Angel faction spawns a loot table that drop more than just a tag + faction amno 999/1000 times). People with common sense + brain have usely more fun scanning this things down and waiting for a big drop instead of press the "next mission" button. Looking in Local and on the scanner donŠt makes missions more interesting, only makes you invest more effort to do still a boring thing.
Also donŠt you think you should post this with a char that isnŠt know as your alt and isnŠt in the same pirate corp to? 
He who shall not be named is enjoying a 30d forum ban for calling someone a ******. ^-^
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:03:00 -
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Ahhh, good times.
1- trolling is fun. 2- I have plenty of standings to use L4 agents in low sec. If everyone is really that concerned with what agents I'm using and where, just look at my standings and figure it out. 3- my profitability was comparable to running missions in high sec when I do. 4- it's nice to get a list of the carebears out there for future wardecs lol.
It's hilarious to see the mission runners coming out of the woodwork to refute and discount my claims, which are true and correct. Just because you (whiny carebears) can't do it doesn't mean someone else can't.
How do I know the 'probes are for me'? Maybe because I'm missioning way out in the middle of nowhere off the solar plain and the probes are moving to within 5 AU of me? The idea that I have to explain things like this is just laughable. I guess if you can't avoid being killed then you obviously can't see the easy answers as to how I'm able to discern whether or not I'm being hunted, and by whom.
I've run plenty of missions. Mostly to be able to better understand the limitations of doing so and to become familiar with the requirements for ship fittings and best practices in order to better be able to kill mission runners. Back when off-plain bookmarks were critical I'd even run missions just to get some good bookmark locations far away from the center of the solar system.
I've run missions in all of the major lowsec mission hubs and then some- Dysa, Hedaleolfarber, Yahyerer, Gyerzen, Uphallant etc. I find that pirates who are very adept at killing mission runners are better than 90% of the mission runners out there at actually running missions. A few times I've even *let* pirates 'catch' me in missions just so I could kill them.
This stuff is just like the suicide ganking complaints. The only reason people get suicided is because they're too stupid/lazy/greedy to take the required steps to not get killed. I've never suicided someone who was flying correctly. It's always the morons that get caught.
So yeah, having a brain and knowing how to use it is OP when it comes to Eve.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007
Originally by: murder one I agree with you that lowsec rewards aren't up to snuff. I don't think an increase of 10-20x the current rewards is unreasonable.
And i don't think he was being sarcastic. Just saying...
I wasn't being sarcastic with the above comment. I really do think that a 10-20x increase in mission rewards for lowsec agents is perfectly acceptable.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Shirley Serious
Originally by: murder one I wasn't being sarcastic with the above comment. I really do think that a 10-20x increase in mission rewards for lowsec agents is perfectly acceptable.
By rewards, do you mean, the LPs and the isk for completion/time bonus? Just the LPs? Just the isk? Or something else?
Everything across the board. The mission rewards for lowsec should be so high that it will kill the greedy souls of carebears everywhere to have to look at all that potential ISK and not partake of it.
Right now the rewards for lowsec is a joke. It is indeed a very dangerous environment when compared to highsec and the rewards don't measure up to the risk. They should be increased twenty fold.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: murder one I went to a lowsec area this afternoon and ran some L4 missions for a few hours just to see what it was like (horrible in fact) and was immediately hunted by pirates.
In addition to multiple groups of pirates not killing me I was also able to complete all of my missions without losing any standing or bonuses. The pirates trying to kill me were using faction probes so I have to assume that they were giving it their best effort to try and kill my BS, but fortunately I can operate simple tools like the local channel and my onboard scanner and was able to easily avoid being probed out and killed.
Frankly I think that not being a mouth breathing neckbeard carebear and having some semblance of intellect and common sense, on top of not being so lazy and greedy that I insist on ignoring all the danger signs of being actively hunted by pirates is completely overpowered.
As a suggestion on how to remedy this situation I propose that all level 4 missions spawn a beacon that is able to be warped to by anyone in the system and shows up on everyone's overview if they have the 'carebear ISK farming beacon' box checked in their overview settings. This will make it a little harder for people like myself with an IQ greater than that of a doorstop to get away from all of those hard working penniless pirates out there.
Exact same type of argument could be applied to the cries for nano-nerf patch. But CCP did do it, they didn't think it was a sarcastic joke, they dumbed down the game so that the slow ******s didn't get pwned all the time by people with brain and common sense.
I look forward to seeing CCP take your advice seriously
LOL. Yeah, the suggestion is so outlandish and horribly constructed (it was a joke btw, in case that isn't completely obvious) they just might do it. I still agree with the speed changes however, if not how they did it.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.15 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: murder one Ahhh, good times.
1- trolling is fun. 2- I have plenty of standings to use L4 agents in low sec. If everyone is really that concerned with what agents I'm using and where, just look at my standings and figure it out. 3- my profitability was comparable to running missions in high sec when I do. 4- it's nice to get a list of the carebears out there for future wardecs lol. ... So yeah, having a brain and knowing how to use it is OP when it comes to Eve.
Lol just checked his standings, he has +7.x to one corp only. Went through his first few level 4 agents, that he did most missions for, they are all located in a 0.9 system. Any halfway competent mission-runner knows that the lp reward in 0.9 is HORRIBLE - this "professional mission-runner who has a brain and knows how to use it" obviously does not.
No wonder he has the same profitability in lowsec as in highsec, since it must be TINY. Didn't bother to check the rest of his agents with low standings, most likely i'd not find anyone located in lowsec. Note how he refuses to mention the agents name and hopes people are too lazy to go through the whole list. Conclusion: this troll has little to no clue of what he is talking about, don't feed him.
Must...resist...getting...second...forum ban....
Just as an example- Maison Orinonet, L4, Q17, Uphallant VII station. I have plenty of standings to have access to various high quality lowsec agents. On this character. Other characters also have standings with other agents...
But again, you're a carebear, so by definition you can't see past your nose and run your mouth before you have investigated everything enough to make an accurate statement. Or maybe you're just too incompetent to make any sort of accurate conclusion at all. Probably the second.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.15 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 15/07/2009 10:45:09
Originally by: CCP Applebabe Moved to " Features and Ideas Discussion".
Seriously ?
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Ephemeron I look forward to seeing CCP take your advice seriously
Yeah, the suggestion is so outlandish and horribly constructed (it was a joke btw, in case that isn't completely obvious) they just might do it.
/me points and laughs @ Applebabe
P.S. I totally agree with "brains + common sense = overpowered". Do you have any idea how little percentage of the world's population have both ? And EVE's population, while slightly better off, is not that significantly better. NERF, I say ! 
Akita- when I saw that the thread had been moved I just couldn't believe it lol. Just hilarious.
-murder one
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murder one
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Posted - 2009.07.17 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye CCP Applebabe must've been feeling generous because this troll of a thread should have been trashed.
Features and Ideas section... where threads go do die... lol.
-murder one
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